ICYMI: NAM’s Jay Timmons Discusses Tariffs, Tax Reform, Manufacturing Investment on CNBC’s “Worldwide Exchange”
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Timmons on Upcoming Tariff Announcement
“We don’t know what the actual proposal is going to be, or the actual plan is going to be from the president today, but in any scenario, it’s going to add cost to manufacturers, especially for those inputs that are coming into the United States for finished goods and already finished products. So manufacturers are bracing. We’ve got 14,000 members right now who, frankly, don’t know what the future holds in terms of additional costs, and that’s why you’re seeing this type of concern and sentiment among manufacturers. In fact, three-quarters of manufacturers who we surveyed rate trade uncertainty as their number one concern right now.”
Timmons on Tax Reform, Lowering Costs for Manufacturers
“I think it’s pretty safe to say that everybody would like more things made here in this country, because that’s good for the economy. That’s good for jobs. What is not good, though, is driving up the cost of actually making those things here in the United States. So the first thing that we need … is we need to see Congress, frankly, do its job and get the tax reforms from 2017 renewed, so that … we have the certainty in the tax code. Also the administration is working on reducing the regulatory burden. That’s a lot of costs. That’s about $50,000 per employee per year for a small manufacturer. And then, of course, energy inputs and the cost of energy is important, as well as workforce challenges. We have 500,000 open jobs, for instance, in manufacturing today. So you add all that up, if we could have those advancements and those things that will bring costs down, that’s good for investment here in the United States. Adding costs for inputs, like critical minerals, for instance, really does not help us in the long term.”
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“There was a lot of enthusiasm when the president came in and talked about strengthening manufacturing here in the United States, talked about an agenda that would lower costs. … If we don’t get the tax reforms renewed, that is an additional cost. If tariffs are imposed, that’s an additional cost. So that’s why you’re seeing consumer sentiment lower. You’re seeing the PMI index that … is now in contraction. That means that manufacturers are putting these decisions on hold. They’re waiting to see whether they should invest and hire, and that’s not good for the economy.”
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Timmons: Tariffs Will Add Costs for Manufacturers
As manufacturers await the announcement of the Trump administration’s sweeping reciprocal tariffs at approximately 4:00 p.m. EDT today, NAM President and CEO Jay Timmons warned that “any scenario … is going to add cost[s] to manufacturers.”
What’s going on: Timmons, appearing on CNBC’s “Worldwide Exchange” this morning, told show anchor Frank Holland that while the world still doesn’t know what the latest tariffs will include, manufacturers are concerned—and they have good reason to be.
- Some 56% of imports to the U.S. are inputs for manufacturing, Holland said, citing NAM data. “That’s why you’re seeing this type of concern and sentiment among manufacturers,” Timmons said in response to a question about what the figure means for tariffs’ impact on the industry.
- Trade uncertainty is the top concern of the majority of manufacturers right now, Timmons said, citing the NAM’s most recent Manufacturers’ Outlook Survey. “That is up 40 percentage points over the last six months,” he told Holland. “That’s a huge jump.”
What it means: While “everybody would like more things made here in this country, because that’s good for the economy, that’s good for jobs,” new tariffs will drive “up the cost of actually making those things here in the United States,” Timmons continued.
What should be done: Manufacturers need certainty, not the nail-biting anxiety that comes from constant changes to the rules.
- “The first thing that we need to see is we need to see Congress do its job and get the tax reforms from 2017 renewed so that we have the certainty in the tax code,” said Timmons.
- Manufacturers also require relief from arduous regulatory burdens, which comes to “about $50,000 per employee per year for a small manufacturer,” Timmons told Holland, adding that the Trump administration is already working to cut those costs.
The bottom line: “There was a lot of enthusiasm when the president came in and talked about strengthening manufacturing here in the United States [and] talked about an agenda that would lower costs,” Timmons concluded.
- “But … if we don’t get the tax reforms renewed, that is an additional cost. If tariffs are imposed, that’s an additional cost. … Manufacturers … are waiting to see whether they should invest and hire. That’s not good for the economy.”
D-Wave Achieves “Quantum Supremacy”
Quantum computing firm D-Wave has achieved a singular breakthrough: it has simulated the “properties of magnetic materials,” opening up the opportunity to “invent” new materials without having to produce them physically in a lab, as D-Wave CEO Alan Baratz told Fast Company.
What it means: The achievement, first published in Science earlier this month, marks the first time a quantum computer has solved a useful, real-world problem that a classical computer couldn’t manage.
- In fact, “To simulate the property of magnetic materials on a classical computer—as the D-Wave team recently did using its quantum computer—would require nearly 1 million years and more energy than the entire world utilizes over the course of a year. D-Wave’s team did it in 20 minutes,” according to Fast Company.
Quantum vs. classical: “Rather than store information using bits represented by 0s or 1s as conventional digital computers do, quantum computers use quantum bits, or qubits, to encode information as 0s, 1s or both at the same time,” D-Wave explains on its site.
- “This superposition of states—along with the other quantum mechanical phenomena of entanglement and tunneling—enables quantum computers to manipulate enormous combinations of states at once.”
- D-Wave’s annealing quantum computer uses these capabilities to solve problems by finding the “lowest energy state” in an enormous range of possible solutions.
- “To imagine this, think of a traveler looking for the best solution by finding the lowest valley in the energy landscape that represents the problem,” as D-Wave puts it.
The possibilities are vast: Being able to simulate materials without creating and testing them in the lab offers significant opportunities for the manufacturing industry and could save companies huge amounts of time and resources. D-Wave foresees that these simulated materials could have applications in everything from “pacemakers to cellphones,” as it told Fast Company.
- “There’s no shortage of potential applications,” said D-Wave Chief Scientist Mohammad Amin.
Further innovation: Another impact of quantum computing is its potential to revolutionize blockchain technology, D-Wave told us.
- “Manufacturers are increasingly adopting blockchain technology to enhance supply chain transparency, track product origins, improve inventory management, and streamline operations. This adoption has led to increased efficiency and reduced costs,” said D-Wave Global Government Relations and Public Affairs Leader Allison Schwartz.
- “Annealing quantum computing offers a potential solution by providing a faster and more environmentally friendly alternative to manufacturers’ current mining operations using classical computers.”
Manufacturers on the Hill Urge Action on Tax Reform Permanency
Shop floor manufacturers and NAM staff met with members of Congress yesterday and continue these meetings today on Capitol Hill to hammer home the importance of making the 2017 tax reforms permanent and getting a comprehensive reconciliation bill done now. House and Senate Republicans are working on a strategy for a tax package as part of a reconciliation bill that includes extending the 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act.
- In its Morning Tax newsletter, POLITICO (subscription) reported on this week’s fly-in, naming the NAM “a powerhouse business lobby” meeting with several members of Congress as the 2025 tax bill continues to “get more intense.”
Why this is a critical moment: When the 2017 tax cuts were signed into law, “it was rocket fuel for manufacturing in America and made the U.S. economy more competitive on a global scale,” said NAM President and CEO Jay Timmons earlier this month.
- “That fuel is about to run out as key provisions have expired, and others are about to lapse. … We must ensure these historic, pro-growth manufacturing provisions are made permanent and even more competitive so manufacturers can plan, grow and succeed.”
“Exactly what the country needed”: Manufacturers traveled hundreds of miles from their shop floors to urge Congress to keep the rocket fuel for manufacturers and the American economy.
- “The Tax Cuts and Jobs Act of 2017 was huge for us,” said Tom Onsrud, CEO of the 51-year-old industrial CNC machine maker C.R. Onsrud, Inc., in Troutman, North Carolina. “It was rocket fuel. As soon as it passed, our backlog exploded. We started employing more people. We went from about 100 people to 220 people. Our floor space was maxed out. … It was exactly what the country needed.”
- One of the provisions, the immediate research and development tax credit, allowed the family-owned business to “expense equipment [costs] quickly,” Onsrud added. “That was huge for us.” That provision, however, expired in 2022.
“Vital to our company”: Stephen Bullock, president of concrete paving equipment manufacturer Power Curbers in Salisbury, North Carolina, is in Washington this week to make sure Congress knows just how important the tax reform measures have been to his small company.
- “We rely on them,” Bullock said. “We spend a lot of time and resources and money in research and development. Without [the tax provisions], it would be impossible for our company to support manufacturing. We’ve got to stay ahead of the game with new machinery, new offerings for our customers. So … anything we can do to realize those tax advantages sooner rather than later helps us very much from a cash-flow standpoint.”
- The TCJA “allowed us to expand and hire additional staff so that we [could] fund new programs, new machinery.”
“Tripled our business”: Steve Macias, co-owner of machining company Pivot Manufacturing, traveled from even farther away—Phoenix, Arizona—to make sure Congress heard what he had to say.
- “The tax reforms of 2017 … allowed us to grow our company in a way that we hadn’t [been able to] previously,” Macias told the NAM. “We were a small machine shop that did prototype and R&D work, and we’d been in business for 17 years. The tax cuts kind of gave us the kick … to take a leap and buy some production equipment, which has allowed us to virtually triple our business over the last eight years.”
- “Legislators need to understand the impact of tax reform,” Macias went on. “I’m a machine shop in Phoenix, Arizona, and there are hundreds of machine shops across the U.S., but there are also thousands upon tens of thousands of small manufacturing companies that made the same decisions we did based on those tax policies.”
Schneider Electric to Invest More Than $700 Million in U.S.
Global energy management and digital transformation giant Schneider Electric will invest more than $700 million in U.S. operations over the next two years, the company announced yesterday (The Dallas Morning News, subscription).
What’s going on: “Schneider said it intends to leverage the investment to ‘support the country’s focus on bolstering the nation’s energy infrastructure to power AI growth, boost domestic manufacturing and strengthen energy security.’”
- The investment—the largest planned single capital expenditure in Schneider Electric’s 135-plus-year history—will be used to expand manufacturing facilities across the U.S. and to boost “smart factory transformation” across Texas, Massachusetts, Missouri and Tennessee, among other states.
- The company is the latest in a string of large manufacturers to announce sizeable domestic investments. Last week, biopharmaceutical firm Johnson & Johnson said it would spend more than $55 billion in the U.S. over the next four years.
- The announcement comes less than a year after the opening of Schneider Electric’s 105,000-square-foot facility in Red Oak, Texas, to support the data center boom in the Dallas–Fort Worth area.
Where else funds will go: The money will also be used to expand a campus in El Paso, Texas, “to keep up with growing demand to increase production of switchgear and power distribution products,” and to open a Houston innovation center that will offer AI-powered automation solutions.
Our take: “Schneider Electric’s significant investment is a clear sign that manufacturing in America is moving forward—driving economic growth, innovation and job creation across the country,” NAM President and CEO Jay Timmons said in a statement quoted in the article.
- “By expanding their operations with a focus on energy security, automation and AI, Schneider Electric is not only strengthening America’s competitiveness but also creating new opportunities and powering our nation’s future.”
NAM Forge Your Path Series: Meet CARR Machine & Tool President Jim Carr
Business is booming at CARR Machine & Tool, Inc., a manufacturer of precision machined parts for the aerospace, defense, semiconductor and medical industries.
The Elk Grove Village, Illinois–based company has seen record sales so far this year, and over the past five years, sales have skyrocketed 500%.
Spearheading this growth is Jim Carr, the company’s president and second-generation business owner and host of “my TRUE POSITION” podcast, who has transformed his shop floor by embracing technology, prioritizing culture and thinking outside the box.
In the latest installment of the NAM’s “Forge Your Path” series, Carr talks about how he got started in podcasting, his biggest accomplishments, where he sees his company in the next 10 years and more.
Q: How did you get started in podcasting, and what is the focus of “my TRUE POSITION”?
Carr: “Seeing a growing need for resources for thought leadership in manufacturing, I co-founded the ‘MakingChips’ podcast, which officially launched in January 2015. The podcast provides metalworking leaders content to enhance their careers and businesses, focusing on leadership, operations, technology and culture.
“In early 2022, I left ‘MakingChips’ to launch ‘my TRUE POSITION,’ a 20-minute, introspective show that provides manufacturing professionals immediate and actionable insight into high-level issues of running a small to medium-sized business.”
Q: What is one lesson or insight you’ve gained in leadership that you haven’t widely shared before but that has been a key part of your company’s success?
Carr: “I was raised in a manufacturing environment with a very poor company culture, so I knew when I took over CARR Machine & Tool in 2004, it was my job to really change the way that I believe a company should be run and to respect your employees. I thought that was very important. It’s been very powerful in the success of the company over the past 20 years.
“The thing that I don’t talk much about is the importance of bringing your personal brand into your corporate brand and having them aligned. Everyone has their true authentic self, but sometimes people are afraid to let others see that. When you can allow that into your corporate brand, it becomes powerful and authentic—and people are attracted to that authenticity.”
Q: Can you share a quote or mantra that defines your approach to leadership? How has this mantra influenced your decision-making and leadership?
Carr: “One that I have learned from my father, Richard, who I worked with for decades, is to keep pushing yourself. That doesn’t mean to work 150 hours a week, but to push yourself outside of your comfort zone. Sometimes we get complacent and can be afraid to venture outside of that comfort zone. It only takes a little bit of discomfort to make you grow. If you do that, you’ll have big wins over the long term.”
Q: What accomplishments at your company are you the most proud of and why?
Carr: “Having my son join the company 10 years ago provided a big paradigm shift in how we operate. Bringing him in and reading the book ‘Traction,’ which talks about how to use the Entrepreneurial Operating System as a systematized way to run your business and achieve success, were very impactful in our growth. Getting AS9100 accreditation—meaning that as a true aerospace manufacturing company, we are consistently demonstrating quality and safety in providing products that meet our customers’ needs—has also been important. Prioritizing company culture has been another big thing that has really changed the face of the company.
“One of the best things we did was move to a new 15,000-square-foot state-of-the-art facility about two blocks from where our other facility was located. We purchased brand-new five-axis precision machining. We’ve done a great job of implementing robotic automation. We have a quality control department now inspecting parts and documenting tolerances. We implemented a new ERP system, and it’s helped us scale. We’ve gone from a regular ‘mom and pop’ machine shop to a world-class AS9100 company with detailed documentations and mandates.”
Q: Where do you see your company in the next 10 years, and what are you hoping to achieve?
Carr: “We’re working on a 10-year succession plan right now as I hope to be fully retired by then. I’ll probably still be podcasting—if podcasting is still a thing in 10 years. I envision an even more state-of-the-art company where we’re using artificial intelligence technology. Also, achieving cybersecurity maturity model certification for dealing with government and classified information will be important.”
Q: What is one piece of advice you would give to a manufacturing leader?
Carr: “I think it’s important to network and have that human experience because there’s nothing like meeting people in person and learning about his or her experiences. Also, if you have the opportunity to join a board, do it as it’s a great way to network with like-minded individuals who know the industry and can help you navigate issues you may be experiencing.”
Manufacturing Wins: J&J Invests More Than $55 Billion
Johnson & Johnson will spend more than $55 billion on manufacturing, research and technology in the U.S. over the next four years, the biopharmaceutical company announced (Axios). These investments include a long-planned $2 billion state-of-the-art biologics facility in Wilson, North Carolina.
What’s going on: The NAM joined J&J for the groundbreaking of the 500,000-square-foot biologics manufacturing plant in Wilson on Friday.
- The White House praised the announcement and J&J’s commitment to manufacturing in America. North Carolina Gov. Josh Stein and Rep. Don Davis (D-NC) also attended the ceremony to highlight the facility’s importance to the state economy and the jobs it will bring to the state.
Other projects across the total investment will include:
- Three new advanced manufacturing sites and the expansion of several facilities in J&J’s Innovative Medicine and MedTech businesses;
- Significant spending on research-and-development infrastructure “aimed at developing lifesaving and life-changing treatments in areas such as oncology, neuroscience, immunology, cardiovascular disease and robotic surgery,” according to the company; and
- More investment aimed at speeding drug discovery and development, supporting workforce training and improving business operations.
Common goal: The Wilson site demonstrates the power of collaboration, Johnson & Johnson Executive Vice President and Chief Technical Operations & Risk Officer and NAM Board Chair Kathy Wengel said at the groundbreaking.
- “Today is a tangible example of how J&J is bringing communities, government, education and industry together to achieve the common goal of creating a future-ready workforce that is ready to tackle the toughest health challenges and achieve new breakthroughs.”
Why it’s important: The investments will strengthen not only North Carolina’s economy, but the U.S. economy as a whole, NAM President and CEO Jay Timmons said at the event.
- “Every $1 invested in manufacturing adds more than $2.60 to the economy. That’s top-of-the-line ROI for communities, neighborhoods and cities like Wilson—among the best ROIs you can get. And every new manufacturing job supports, on average, five additional jobs in other industries.”
The big picture: The new Wilson facility will generate a $3 billion impact across North Carolina in its first decade of operation.
- It will support about 5,000 jobs during construction and create more than 500 permanent positions—paying an average of $109,000 a year—in the state (WRAL News).
Certainty and predictability: These investments illustrate why policymakers must ensure that manufacturers have more certainty and predictability, not less, Timmons added.
- “Manufacturing—especially biopharmaceutical manufacturing—requires years of planning, ingenuity and investment decisions,” he said. “When there’s stability, common sense and competitive policies, companies like Johnson & Johnson can plan for the future—and plan big.”
- Timmons said that to “make more wins like this happen,” elected officials must stay focused on a comprehensive manufacturing strategy, including a “competitive tax policy, balanced regulations, prompt permitting, abundant energy and smart trade policies.”
The tax factor: J&J credits the 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act with allowing it to increase its investment, according to MassDevice.
- Investments like J&J’s “are why it is critical that pro-growth provisions of the 2017 tax law be made permanent and more competitive,” Timmons wrote in a social post. “If Congress fails to act, 6 million American jobs—184,000 in North Carolina—will be wiped out. We can’t let that happen.”
- But if Congress does preserve the measures, manufacturing will win, Timmons said. “And when manufacturing wins, America wins.”
Critical Minerals Executive Order Strengthens U.S. Manufacturing
President Trump’s recent executive order to accelerate permitting and access to domestic critical minerals will help manufacturing—and America—win, NAM President and CEO Jay Timmons said.
What’s going on: The recent executive order aims to boost U.S. production of critical minerals—which include lithium and cobalt—“as well as uranium, copper, potash, gold and any other element, compound or material as determined by the Chair of the National Energy Dominance Council,” according to the EO.
- China dominates the global market for critical minerals, which are vital in the manufacture of everyday goods from cell phones and computers to advanced energy and defense technologies.
- Increasing American production of these crucial substances “can create jobs, fuel prosperity and significantly reduce our reliance on foreign nations,” according to the EO. “Transportation, infrastructure, defense capabilities and the next generation of technology rely upon a secure, predictable and affordable supply of minerals.”
What’s in it: The EO—which cites “overbearing federal regulation” for the lack of American critical mineral production—enumerates “staggered timelines for agencies across government to prioritize financing for domestic mineral projects, including loans, capital and technical assistance, and calls on the Department of Defense to accelerate domestic mineral production” (POLITICO Pro’s GREENWIRE).
- It also calls on the DOD to work with the U.S. International Development Finance Corporation to offer financing for the projects.
Aligned on regulations: The NAM has long called for regulatory reform to combat the onslaught of rules coming from the federal government—and this EO is a much-needed reform, said Timmons.
- “For too long, red tape and burdensome regulations have stood in the way of the basic building blocks that power manufacturing in the United States, especially mining and processing the minerals manufacturers rely on to create jobs and dominate on the world stage,” Timmons said. “The administration is addressing those barriers, making it easier for manufacturers to access the resources we need to build the future in America.”
President’s Executive Order Strengthens U.S. Manufacturing by Accelerating Permitting and Unlocking Critical Resources
Washington, D.C. – Following President Donald Trump’s executive order to accelerate permitting and expand access to critical resources for manufacturing, National Association of Manufacturers President and CEO Jay Timmons released the following statement:
“For too long, red tape and burdensome regulations have stood in the way of the basic building blocks that power manufacturing in the United States, especially mining and processing the minerals manufacturers rely on to create jobs and dominate on the world stage. The administration is addressing those barriers, making it easier for manufacturers to access the resources we need to build the future in America.
“The NAM and our members will continue to serve as a resource to the Trump administration as it takes action to secure America’s supply chains and reduce reliance on countries like China when we have resources right here at home.
“A comprehensive manufacturing strategy—one that cements America’s position as the manufacturing superpower—depends on smart permitting reforms like the ones the administration is advancing. When manufacturers in the United States can invest with certainty, they plan, hire and win—and when manufacturers win, America wins.
“The NAM has long championed expediting the permitting process as a key pillar of our competitiveness agenda. When President Trump spoke at our September 2024 board meeting, he promised to deliver on this priority, and he has kept his promise. We look forward to continuing to work with his National Energy Dominance Council, under the leadership of Secretary of the Interior Doug Burgum and Secretary of Energy Chris Wright, to Make America Great for Manufacturing Again.”
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The National Association of Manufacturers is the largest manufacturing association in the United States, representing small and large manufacturers in every industrial sector and in all 50 states. Manufacturing employs nearly 13 million men and women, contributes $2.93 trillion to the U.S. economy annually and accounts for 53% of private-sector research and development. The NAM is the powerful voice of the manufacturing community and the leading advocate for a policy agenda that helps manufacturers compete in the global economy and create jobs across the United States. For more information about the NAM or to follow us on Twitter and Facebook, please visit www.nam.org.
Light-Touch AI Regulation Serves Manufacturers, Consumers Best
Artificial intelligence has become integral to modern manufacturing, which is why manufacturers support the Trump administration’s goal of making America globally dominant in AI, the NAM told the White House this month.
What’s going on: “[M]anufacturers use AI in myriad ways, which has made AI integral to modern manufacturing and put manufacturers at the forefront of developing and implementing AI systems,” the NAM told White House Office of Science and Technology Policy Acting Director Michael Kratsios and AI and Crypto Czar David Sacks last Friday in response to a request for information on the development of an AI action plan.
- The NAM supports President Trump’s stated goal of “sustain[ing] and enhance[ing] America’s global AI dominance in order to promote human flourishing, economic competitiveness and national security” while also, in Vice President Vance’s words, “avoid[ing] an overly precautionary regulatory regime.”
- The NAM has been one of the foremost voices for smart regulations on AI. Last May, it published “Working Smarter: How Manufacturers Are Using Artificial Intelligence,” a first-of-its-kind AI report on AI deployment in manufacturing and an accompanying list of suggested AI-policy actions Congress and the administration should take.
What should be done: To ensure that Americans benefit from AI safely and in a manner that does not unduly hamstring innovation, four specific steps should be taken, the NAM said:
- Direct regulators to update their frameworks for the AI age: “[M]anufacturers recommend that the AI Action Plan direct federal regulators to review the statutory and regulatory frameworks they maintain and enforce”;
- Customize AI regulations: “AI is context-specific, so ‘AI regulation’ should be too”;
- Transparency between AI vendors and users: The plan should direct [the National Institute of Standards and Technology] to work with the industry to develop best practices on how vendors explain how they develop and train their AI systems, to help companies defend their use of these AI systems in front of regulators.
- “Right-size” compliance burdens: “The ubiquitous use of AI throughout modern manufacturing, as well as manufacturing’s dependence on innovation, underscore the need for rules that enable rather than hinder manufacturers’ development and adoption of AI systems.”
Other critical needs: In addition, the NAM urges the administration to prioritize the following as part of its AI action plan:
- A “dual workforce strategy”: “The AI Action plan should make enhanced access to, and support for the development of, science, technology, engineering and mathematics (STEM) education programs throughout the country, at both the K-12 and higher education levels, a national priority … and increas[e] the allowable number of advanced degree STEM graduates for employment-based visa categories, in particular among lawful permanent residents.”
- Permitting reform and existing energy generation: The plan should endorse expedited judicial review and permitting processes for energy generation projects, working “with stakeholders to identify ways that the projected increase in demand growth can be leveraged to lower the cost curve of traditional light-water [nuclear] reactors” and look closely at the role of natural gas as a source of baseload power for the data center sector.
- Privacy and security: Work “with Congress to pass a national privacy law that fully preempts the growing patchwork of state laws, protects individuals’ privacy and provides much needed legal clarity to support continued innovation and competitiveness.”